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		<description><![CDATA[Do you think there is an ethical problem with&#8230;..?(revised question)? allowing students at the undergraduate level to participate in practicum for counseling? Even with supervision? if you feel there is, than what about when the military trains people to become counselors, and they counsel even thought they do not have a degree? And i know [...]]]></description>
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allowing students at the undergraduate level to participate in practicum for counseling? Even with supervision? if you feel there is, than what about when the military trains people to become counselors, and they counsel even thought they do not have a degree? And i know this because my father was in the military and that was his job and he never finished getting his BA. Here is the class description of undergrad practicum:<br />
PSYC 4191-4991 Practicum: Psychology<br />
<a href="http://emilysgame.com" target=_self>experiential learning</a> course in which psychological theories and basic counseling skills are applied in working with individuals, families and groups; students are assigned to agencies under professional supervision and complete a final paper integrating counseling theory and technique with applied experience. Psychology majors or consent of instructor. May be repeated, may not earn more than nine hours total.<br />
Prerequisites: ENGL 1313 &amp; 1314, PSYC 1305, PSYC 3334 or PSYC 3335, PSYC 3336</p>
<p>for undergraduate level i feel there is no problem. that is course level work and the person needs to get clinical experience. the military on the other hand trains people to do a lot of things, and certifies people to do a certain job whereas in the civilian world their skill is not recognize. An understanding in PSYC is need to do a job as a counselor, but a degree is certainly not needed. Counselors are their to help someone get the help needed for certain issues. To direct them in the direction they may need to go.  It is up to psychologists, and psychiatrist to treat people and diagnose(MD only of course) them. I am in the military and i have lots of training that in the civilian world mean nothing.    </p>
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